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my ad vice for making free content but still have an income would be to put adverts on the website like everybody else either around the edges of the web site or(presumably for more money) before and maybe in the middle of your videos
The problem is that stealing the latest movie from Warner Brothers doesn’t bother people because it’s difficult to feel any empathy with a multinational company. Mentally it’s the equivalent of eating a few grapes at the supermarket. This is where the Robert Llewellyn’s of this world need to take advantage of the personal touch (and you kind of are already). Once there is a real person involved, human guilt kicks in a bit more.
A way to make money is to give added value features that are downloadable at a small cost direct from the artist.
This added value stuff should be drip fed, so that the ‘pirate’ stuff is never up to date.
This is effectively acting like the fashion industry (and the cinema). You have to create a demand for ‘the new stuff’.
If you are not fashion conscious you will wait for it to be free – downloaders are not patient!
The reason that DVDs and VHSs of say Red Dwarf, continue to sell, is conveniance. It’s easier to buy a series in one go, than faf about with your own poorly labled stuff.
Also ‘added value’. The bought shows usualy have extras that were not transmitted at the time.
Also quality. The picture and sound quality usualy far surpassed the wonly signal from your old corroded aerial. No co-channel interfrance from France (if you live on the south coast)
Also they are a collectable thing of the show
Most of the people my age (34) and younger that I know “steal” or use music and movies and software for free. I don’t know. I feel guilty about it, so I don’t usually do it, but it seems like I am being the stupid one, because I actually fork over the money to pay for legit copies of things while everyone else is enjoying everything for free.
….rather than having all the cinema costs put on top. I know you can get films legitimately on the net, but I think if there was some sort of Paypal option then at least a percentage of people would actually give some money. I would. someone needs to create a site that would be a home cinema with latest releases, that people can pay a nominal fee, screw the popcorn and paying for spotty students at the cinema desk who insist on telling you the ending as well. cinemas wouldn’t be happy though.
I sometimes watch films on the internet, because of A) the easiness of doing it B) the cost.i do feel guilty sometimes, If it was a film I’d never liked the look of, but was very impressed with, I’ll go to see it in it’s full glory in the cinema, or maybe buy the dvd as a way of paying. Maybe there should be an amnesty site where you can donate money if you did actually illegally watch a film, but felt bad after and could make a small donation, which went directly to the makers of said film….
You should do a Radiohead. Come up with something good, put a trailer on youtube and let people download it from another site and pay as much as they like.
“the media” exists to sell advertising space. Nothing more. The newspapers, tv and radio are only there because someone will pay to inflict adverts for washing powder or vaginal deodorant on the poor bastards sitting there watching. The only way that I can see for “artists” to make money online is by product placement. Get Apple, Toyota and Land Rover to sponsor your “content”, at least that way you get to choose what shit gets pushed down your viewers throats.
I can’t believe you didn’t get any money for all the RD videos, I’d be bitter to.
About 4 weeks ago, I was given a copy of Sweeny Todd, (because they know I am a Johnny Depp fan), so I didn’t have to pay to go to the cinema to see it, it was as good as any you can buy in the shop, I don’t know where it came from, but I’m sure it wasn’t the only copy made.
great video as always
There’s definitely a cultural shift going on aboout how people regard media. Everyone is getting used to having things for free, some maybe getting everything for free. However, it may not mean the end of bought-media, just like home taping didn’t kill music. It just means the dinosaur recording industries have to start thinking proactively rather than just sitting there raking the money in.
I was too busy watching your screen rather than listening to you! I noticed Tony Hawks and Danny John Jules!
As regards to file sharing and all that buisness, most people watch a film in the cinema first then download it later, and as you say, the quality is top notch.
The music and media industry will cave in under the pressure to allow people to download stuff legally from the internet, it’s the only way forward for them to go.
Good points man. I’m 33 and I still like the experience of buying and holding actual physical ’stuff’ when I really like it. I still go to the theater too, if I think I will like the movie.
Otherwise I just download the stuff. To get people to spend money, you have to sell the experience, not just the ‘content’. You have to make me want to own it. Not just see it or hear it.
there making torret’s harder now by banning illegle downloads by making it so if your cauth once you get an email, twice lose conection for a week, three time’s you lose you conection completley, i just wonder if this count to you-tube or any-streem site, i don’t use torret, just streem-site’s, and there’s alot i watch and don’t want to lose it.
Funny how everything links up. I watch Jonathan Coulton on YouTube, and I watch Robert Llewellyn on YouTube, seemingly with no connection. Then one of them mentions the other.
I do admire the way Coulton has made a name for himself, but there’s not many people who can do the same thing. He did that Thing A Week series and people heard about it because it was quirky. To replicate that would be hard. People start thinking “oh, it’s been done before”.
I’m happy to download the (very) occasional torrent of something, and yet once when someone I was meeting for the first time came to my house with a folder full of torrented films I was mildly put out by it, by his assumptions or whatever. Isn’t that odd? Clearly, my morals are a bit flexible…when it suits me!
But absolutely, let’s cut out the greedy record companies etc; if the material is any good, it’ll sell itself.
Didn’t mean to post the Nabaztag video without commentary. Simply that my bunny also very much likes Jonathan Coulton’s Code Monkey.
In case you hadn’t realised yet, Jonathan’s also on Twitter (@jonathancoulton)
Cheers
Vero
my ad vice for making free content but still have an income would be to put adverts on the website like everybody else either around the edges of the web site or(presumably for more money) before and maybe in the middle of your videos
Waaaay back last summer, I posted a video response to Telly Talk 3. As far as I’m aware you never watched it. Perhaps you might like to now!
The problem is that stealing the latest movie from Warner Brothers doesn’t bother people because it’s difficult to feel any empathy with a multinational company. Mentally it’s the equivalent of eating a few grapes at the supermarket. This is where the Robert Llewellyn’s of this world need to take advantage of the personal touch (and you kind of are already). Once there is a real person involved, human guilt kicks in a bit more.
part2
A way to make money is to give added value features that are downloadable at a small cost direct from the artist.
This added value stuff should be drip fed, so that the ‘pirate’ stuff is never up to date.
This is effectively acting like the fashion industry (and the cinema). You have to create a demand for ‘the new stuff’.
If you are not fashion conscious you will wait for it to be free – downloaders are not patient!
The reason that DVDs and VHSs of say Red Dwarf, continue to sell, is conveniance. It’s easier to buy a series in one go, than faf about with your own poorly labled stuff.
Also ‘added value’. The bought shows usualy have extras that were not transmitted at the time.
Also quality. The picture and sound quality usualy far surpassed the wonly signal from your old corroded aerial. No co-channel interfrance from France (if you live on the south coast)
Also they are a collectable thing of the show
why didnt you get paid for the RD tapes?
Most of the people my age (34) and younger that I know “steal” or use music and movies and software for free. I don’t know. I feel guilty about it, so I don’t usually do it, but it seems like I am being the stupid one, because I actually fork over the money to pay for legit copies of things while everyone else is enjoying everything for free.
….rather than having all the cinema costs put on top. I know you can get films legitimately on the net, but I think if there was some sort of Paypal option then at least a percentage of people would actually give some money. I would. someone needs to create a site that would be a home cinema with latest releases, that people can pay a nominal fee, screw the popcorn and paying for spotty students at the cinema desk who insist on telling you the ending as well. cinemas wouldn’t be happy though.
I sometimes watch films on the internet, because of A) the easiness of doing it B) the cost.i do feel guilty sometimes, If it was a film I’d never liked the look of, but was very impressed with, I’ll go to see it in it’s full glory in the cinema, or maybe buy the dvd as a way of paying. Maybe there should be an amnesty site where you can donate money if you did actually illegally watch a film, but felt bad after and could make a small donation, which went directly to the makers of said film….
You should do a Radiohead. Come up with something good, put a trailer on youtube and let people download it from another site and pay as much as they like.
I wish you all the best, you might be intrested in the documentary “Steal This Film”. all about what you’re talking about.
I wish you all the best, you might be intrested in the documentary “Steal This Film”. all about what you’re talking about.
Part 2 … BTW, whats wrong with some “manufactured pop star” only getting £500000 for recording a record? I’ll never earn £500000 for a few hours work
“the media” exists to sell advertising space. Nothing more. The newspapers, tv and radio are only there because someone will pay to inflict adverts for washing powder or vaginal deodorant on the poor bastards sitting there watching. The only way that I can see for “artists” to make money online is by product placement. Get Apple, Toyota and Land Rover to sponsor your “content”, at least that way you get to choose what shit gets pushed down your viewers throats.
I can’t believe you didn’t get any money for all the RD videos, I’d be bitter to.
About 4 weeks ago, I was given a copy of Sweeny Todd, (because they know I am a Johnny Depp fan), so I didn’t have to pay to go to the cinema to see it, it was as good as any you can buy in the shop, I don’t know where it came from, but I’m sure it wasn’t the only copy made.
great video as always
There’s definitely a cultural shift going on aboout how people regard media. Everyone is getting used to having things for free, some maybe getting everything for free. However, it may not mean the end of bought-media, just like home taping didn’t kill music. It just means the dinosaur recording industries have to start thinking proactively rather than just sitting there raking the money in.
I was too busy watching your screen rather than listening to you! I noticed Tony Hawks and Danny John Jules!
As regards to file sharing and all that buisness, most people watch a film in the cinema first then download it later, and as you say, the quality is top notch.
The music and media industry will cave in under the pressure to allow people to download stuff legally from the internet, it’s the only way forward for them to go.
Hmm I wonder what Professor Vivian Alice’s take is on this subject? What does he teach his students about “file sharing”?
Good points man. I’m 33 and I still like the experience of buying and holding actual physical ’stuff’ when I really like it. I still go to the theater too, if I think I will like the movie.
Otherwise I just download the stuff. To get people to spend money, you have to sell the experience, not just the ‘content’. You have to make me want to own it. Not just see it or hear it.
agreed, was just going to post that.
Cool posters background a la Hank Green.
lubetube, i love it.
there making torret’s harder now by banning illegle downloads by making it so if your cauth once you get an email, twice lose conection for a week, three time’s you lose you conection completley, i just wonder if this count to you-tube or any-streem site, i don’t use torret, just streem-site’s, and there’s alot i watch and don’t want to lose it.
A Jonathan Coulton mention!
Funny how everything links up. I watch Jonathan Coulton on YouTube, and I watch Robert Llewellyn on YouTube, seemingly with no connection. Then one of them mentions the other.
I do admire the way Coulton has made a name for himself, but there’s not many people who can do the same thing. He did that Thing A Week series and people heard about it because it was quirky. To replicate that would be hard. People start thinking “oh, it’s been done before”.
I’m happy to download the (very) occasional torrent of something, and yet once when someone I was meeting for the first time came to my house with a folder full of torrented films I was mildly put out by it, by his assumptions or whatever. Isn’t that odd? Clearly, my morals are a bit flexible…when it suits me!
But absolutely, let’s cut out the greedy record companies etc; if the material is any good, it’ll sell itself.